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Sunday, 22 January 2017

Links to the past.

Some eighteen years ago my dad gave me a present of his father's silver watch chain. Looking at it recently, I saw that it had silver hallmarks, on the medallion, the clasps and bar.


Close-ups of the medallion show a walking lion, meaning that it is over 90% silver; an anchor; made in Birmingham; a "b" tells us it was made in 1901 and R·P, that it was made by Robert Pringle and Sons. They were a London company but had a factory in Birmingham. There are some feint scratches on one side, the photograph close up shows it could be E F Rogers, scratched on, probably by Ernest himself.
Grandad and Nan
At the time I asked my dad to write down some things about his dad, Ernest Frederick:


"As far back as I can remember, is about 1916, I was dressed up in a sailor's kit. My dad took photos on a quarter plate camera and made the prints by daylight in a printing frame, then he would fix them in a chemical called hypo. I would often see him in the shed mending our shoes.


Horrie, Sis & Jack

Dad used to work in the docks but I can't remember that. I do remember him working as a tram driver; going off with his big waterproof cape and leggings because his cab was not enclosed and when he was driving, he had no protection from the weather.

West Ham's first Electric tram in 1904. Grandad Ernest in the cab, to the right of the picture.

His route was from the Albert Dock to Chingford Mount. When he was on early turns, I had to take his breakfast to him at the Coach and Horses pub in the mornings about 8 o'clock he would give me a ride in the front of the tram. His tea was in a caddy with a stocking around it, to keep it warm.

He would put Blakeys in them to stop them wearing out so fast, which made them lovely for skating on pavements.

Horrie, showing off his Blakeys at Southend-on-Sea

He was always doing crossword puzzles and once won £90 in the News of the World. I had a new overcoat out of it. At one time I wanted to buy a camera. It was £6 6s. I was going to get it on hire purchase. Being under age I had to ask him to sign my form. He said, 'You don't want to buy it like that, I'll give you the money and you can pay it back to me.' Dad retired about 1935 the year before we got married, then he settled down to doing crosswords and reading law books."

Perhaps Ernest bought his watch chain and watch when he started work on the trams, because he would have needed to know the time.

Nan & Grandad at 66 Chesterton Terrace as I remember them in the 50s





Monday, 10 October 2016

Part 1. Who was Richard Henry Shepherd?


On Sunday 12 December 1841 in a house in Church street, Modbury, Jemima Rogers, aged 21,  gave birth to an illegitimate son. His name was recorded as Richard Henry Shepherd Rogers.

Church Street, Modbury

Richard's father was an 18 year old tailor, named Richard Shepherd, but instead of marrying Jemima, he married her older sister, Mary. The three of them, together with their son, moved to Chelsea in London, where young boy went by the name of Richard Henry Shepherd. In 1851 they were living in Park Terrace, now Park road (see Street View). Richard had two younger step sisters, Fanny and Jessie.

In the 50 years before the Shepherds arrived in London, its population had doubled to two million. Life must have been a shock to the family from the small town Devon.  Where they were used to the smell of livestock and the countryside, now the stink from the the river Thames, an open sewer in those days, must have been unbearable.
Smell was a potent characteristic of London life. In the 1850s London experienced the Great Stink when the River Thames became a giant sewer overflowing not only with human waste but also dead animals, rotting food and toxic raw materials from the riverside factories.                   - Beverley Cook Curator of Social History, Museum of London.[1]

Disease was rife and in January 1854 Jemima caught consumption or tuberculosis and died a year later. every week over 150 Londoners died of this one disease alone. She died at number 11 Park Terrace and on the certificate she was described as a 'live in woman's domestic servant'.  This makes one wonder if it is possible that Richard never knew that Jemima was his mother and that he was brought up as though Jemima's sister, Mary was his mother.


Ten years in the Navy


HMS Curacoa
in Tauranga Harbour, New Zealand
On his eighteenth birthday in 1859 he joined the Royal Navy, signing up for ten years. He was 5'8" tall, had black hair, black eyes, no scars or wounds and a dark complexion. His first posting was HMS St Vincent a training ship in Portsmouth harbour.  By 1861 he was aboard HMS Curacoa, off the SE coast of America.
Aboard this ship Richard sailed to Australia and then New Zealand, where it took part in the the invasion of Waikato in 1863.

In 1865 the ship sailed around the South Sea Islands. On board was the Gentleman explorer and naturalist, Julius Brenchley, who wrote an account of his time on board , Jottings during the cruise  of the Coracoa Among the South Sea Islands in 1865.

Here's an extract:

On September 10, early in the morning, we left Ysabel  Island, having the schooner 'Southern Cross' in tow, which we  subsequently bore away from after mutual adieus, and bent  our course towards Eramanga... read more


The ship returned to Portsmouth the following year, presumably with Richard aboard.


Promotion to  Sailmaker

When Richard's ten years were up in 1869 he signed up for a further ten.  With a dacade already completed, and a good record, he could apply for promotion. Perhaps it was because he already had experience with cloth and thread, his father being a tailor, he chose to became a sailmaker.

For the second half of his life at sea, Richard was sailmaker, a skilled crew member, a "day-man" who had a chance of getting an uninterrupted night's sleep




All large foreign-going ships at this time had a sailmaker, responsible for the storage and maintenance of the ship's sails who would design and cut out new sails when required. They would be stitched by members of the crew. The design had to be precise because the sail had to be attached to its yard at exactly the right points.  The sailmaker was a skilled crew member, a "day-man", which meant that he did not have to keep a watch and had a chance of getting an uninterrupted night's sleep, as long as "all hands" were not called. Like the other day men, the Bosun, carpenter, Cook, and steward, he usually berthed apart from the rest of the crew. A sailmaker received about £4.10s a month, 50% more than an able seaman.

In 1873 Richard was aboard HMS Asia in Portsmouth but soon sailed to Australia again, aboard HMS Pearl, which had just returned from a world cruise. There, the ship was taken over by Captain James Graham Goodenough, who was well known and respected in the Navy for his enlightened approach with his crew. He was one of the first to set up a canteen aboard ship, more like a shop, where sailors could buy goods and food.

So how was it that Richard's Captain was murdered?  ... read Part Two


Richard Henry Shepherd was first cousin once removed to Ernest Frederick Rogers:








Sunday, 9 October 2016

Jemima, her Sister and the Tailor - Our very own Ménage à Trois


In March 1841, third-great-aunt, Jemima was a dressmaker aged 20. She lived with her sister, Mary, who was ten years older, also a dressmaker, and their father, John Rogers (b1779). They lived in Church Street, Modbury.
In December that year, Jemima, who was unmarried, gave birth to a son whom she named Richard Henry. The father was given as Richard Shepheard, a tailor who lived not far away.
In the 19th Century it was quite common for children of working class couples to be conceived out of wedlock, the young couple on realising the pregnancy, arranging a quick marriage. However, Richard never married Jemima, instead he moved to Stoke Damerel in Plymouth and about February 1844 he married, Jemima's older sister, Mary.

By 1851 Richard, Mary, Jemima and her son had moved to Chelsea in London and Mary and Richard had had two more children, Jessie and Fanny.
Jemima died four years later aged 35 and her son Richard Henry Shepherd, joined the Royal navy as an ordinary seaman. He died in 1909.

 Richard Henry Lived in the Kings Road Chelsea in 1861 (not so upmarket in those days).  He had at least three step-sisters, Jessy died aged 14, Fanny aged 2 and Emma married Henry Carder who, with his brother, Robert had a photographic studio for a time in Earle's Court Road.

Jemima's Siblings 

JOHN ROGERS born  11 Mar 1808 , Devon. Died 1886. (Our ancestor)
MARY ROGERS  born  16 Mar 1810 .
WILLIAM ROGERS  born  15 Mar 1812 .
RICHARD ROGERS born 3 Apr 1814  .
ANN ROGERS  born 10 Nov 1816. Died  8 Sep 1824.
JAMES ROGERS  born 8 Aug 1819. Died 20 Oct 1819.
JEMIMA ROGERS born  31 Dec 1820 in  Devon. Died in 1855
HENRY ROGERS  born  31 Aug 1823.
JAMES ROGERS born 03 Dec 1826 in . Died in 1908.
GEORGE ROGERS  born  27 Jan 1833.



Tuesday, 20 September 2016

Family Pioneers

Stella Rogers 1957
Of eighteen grandchildren, Cousin Sheila settled in Lanzarote and my brother John, in Wales but Stella proved the most adventurous, by migrating to California at the age of 23.  Stella's father, Horie, had told her to forget her dreams of dressmaking and travel and told her to work in the local clothing factory, as a machinist, like the thousands of other working class girls in East London.   However, Stella was in tune with the rebellious Hollywood teenagers of the fifties, like James Dean who had just starred in 'Rebel Without a Cause'.  Along with her boyfriend, and sewing machine, she ran away from home to seek her fortune.  The boyfriend got cold feet before boarding the Neptunia at Southampton, the US customs confiscated the sewing machine but Stella made it to California.  There, she changed her name to Stephanie, worked on costumes for movie stars, opened up a Malibu bikini business and began a US dynasty of the Rogers family.

The rest of us grandchildren all appear to have settled within 200 miles of our roots in East London.  But what of previous generations?  Who were the pioneers of long ago, did any of them leave home to seek their fortune and what prompted people to move?

I left London in 1964, travelled around a bit, returned a few years later, met Valerie and got a job in a shirt company.  When I told Valerie's dad that I wished to marry his daughter, he said, "I suppose people will always want shirts."  I thought this hilarious because I had no intention of keeping the same job for life.  However, in time, I came to see his point.

Stella's sister, Sally is married to Barry, who has been a London black-cab driver for years.  It is a difficult time for cabbies in London because of the popularity of Uber cabs.  It seems that even when an industry has been around for years, it can still come under threat.  In recent generations, many industries have come and gone and not many children have followed their parent's careers.
Going back through the generations: around 1962, my father, John Lear Rogers (1909), was made redundant from his shirt company after twenty years.  The firm was unable to compete with cheap foreign imports.  My shirt company brought a revival to the industry with the arrival of ITV and mass TV advertising; "Rael Brook Toplin, the shirt you don't iron,” the jingle went, but eventually even Harry Rael Brook's newly resurgent shirt empire crumbled away.  By which time, my dad, along with most of his generation, had moved out of London in search of work and a better life.

His father, Ernest Frederick Rogers (1879), was a tram driver, who, in 1904, drove the very first electric tram in West Ham.  He and Ella Elizabeth (1883) moved house quite a lot when their family were young, albeit just a few hundred yards each time.  Nan, Ella Elizabeth Smith (1883), was a family hero, bringing up her two younger brothers in dire poverty, but she was a Smith, and her family has a separate story, (See Fred Smith's book, Smudge).  My dad took me for a ride on the very last London tram, which trundled into history in 1952, but by then, Granddad, Ernest Frederick Rogers (1879), had been retired for a number of years.

Emily and John Lear about 1909
Great-grandfather, John Lear Rogers (1851) and great-grandmother, Emily Curtis (1854) are my family heroes.  They were born in Plymouth, in the county of Devon.  It was unlikely that John had any schooling but Emily's father, Silas, was a tradesman, a cooper, working for the Royal Navy and her grandfather, Richard, received a pension after service in the Royal Marines and fighting at the battle of Trafalgar.  Families of tradesmen had a higher income than labourers had and would often see the value of paying for some education for their children.  There were many National schools near to where Emily grew up in Plymouth and in it seems very likely she had some schooling.  Early on John Lear was a labourer in a quarry but escaped that gruelling work with employment in a soap factory.  The local vicar recorded him as being a perfumer; however, the registrar was not so generous and recorded him as being a labourer in a soap factory.  Emily was a milliner, making women's hats, the types with lots of flowers and bird feathers.  However, with growing mechanisation and the decline in the navy after the Napoleonic wars, there was growing unemployment in Plymouth and John Lear and Emily decided to leave.  That was a key moment in our history, had it been a few years later, they may well have taken advantage of the relatively inexpensive Atlantic passages on the new steam ships, emigrated to the United States and none of our present lives would have happened.  As it was, instead of travelling to the Wild West, they went to Custom House, in the Docklands, the Wild East of London.  John Lear, along with immigrants from all over, took advantage of the boom in international trade and worked in London's docks.  John Lear returned to stone masonry and worked on building the new docks.

In 1879, whilst expecting their fourth child, their two sons, Ernest Lear Rogers (1873) and Frederick Richard John Rogers (1875) were given the wrong medicine by a drunken doctor.  In the morning, Emily found both boys, dead.  Despite Britain's most famous pathologist examining their bodies, the cause of their death was not identified.  They were buried in a pauper's grave.  Two months later, John, Emily and their surviving two-year-old daughter, Edith, moved a couple of miles to the north and John Lear escaped the awful employment conditions of the docks, in which there was a corrupt scramble for employment every morning.  He obtained work as a stonemason, working on St Andrews church in Plaistow.  Four months after the death of their sons, Emily gave birth to another boy whom they named Ernest Frederick, after their two lost boys, our grandfather.  When too old to lift stones or a hammer and chisel, John Lear became a lamplighter.  Emily lived until 1926 but John Lear died at the age of 58 just before lamplighters disappeared forever and the London streets became lit by electricity.  My father was born a month after his death in 1909 and was named John Lear, after the old man from Plymouth.

West Hoe Quarry, Plymouth, where John Rogers (1808) worked
His father, John Rogers (1808), worked in a quarry in Plymouth but had been born in Modbury, a small market town in Devon.  If we were to go back in time and meet the young John Rogers (1808), it is unlikely we would understand much of what he was saying, as he would have spoken a Devon dialect far removed from our present day South East England accent.  For years, Modbury had been a thriving wool town but with growing industrialisation in the big cities, work became scarce and around the early 1830s, John Rogers (1808) left.  In 1835, he married Elizabeth Lear (1811) in Tormoham, now part of Torquay.  She was from the small village of Buckland-in-the-Moor and the marriage brought the Lear name into our family.  The newlyweds soon moved to Plymouth, where John began work in the quarry.  He died at the ripe old age of 78 in Plymouth workhouse, worn out and ill, his family having moved away to London and elsewhere.

That is about it for the Rogers family history of migration.  Before John Rogers (1808) left Modbury, around 1834, at least seven generations had lived there.  In the sixteen hundreds, they were agricultural workers, living through a time of relatively little change.  Even the English Civil War and two battles in Modbury came and went and the sons of Rogers followed their fathers to work on the land.  Their children would have worked for the same squire and they would have been buried in the same churchyard.  They had little opportunity to learn a trade or move away from a life of agricultural labour, whilst their daughters could look forward to a life of helping their mothers, servitude and marriage followed by a life of almost constant pregnancy!  These families, however, would probably have had a few animals of their own, which they could graze on common land, and which would augment their supply of food when times got hard.  During the following hundred years, the seventeen-hundreds, there was relentless land grab by rich farmers, which meant that successive generations of our ancestors had less common land to graze their own animals and so became more and more dependent on the farmer's employment and meagre wages.  After the farmers had taken all the common land, unemployment meant that our ancestors had to starve or move.

John Rogers (1779) did leave Modbury in 1802 to join the the 29th Regiment of Foot.  He soon sailed off to Halifax,  Nova Scotia, Canada. In 1806 he was injured, maybe in the Halifax Riots, caused by over zealous Royal Navy ship's press-gangs.  In any case by December that year he was back in England listed as a Chelsea Pensioner and receiving one shilling and threepence a day pension for being blinded and unfit for work. Six months later he married Mary Bardons (1786), in Modbury and they had ten children, one dying in infancy.  He lived until he was 84 and Mary until she was at least 75. Perhaps he saw a better future for descendants.  A life, although far from perfect, that might offer the young a chance to go their own way.  His descendants would work in many different occupations occupations, many of which he could never have imagined: stonemasons, lamplighters, tram drivers, builders and decorators, telecommunication engineers, shirt makers, cabbies, boat builders, software engineers, teaching assistants and Malibu bikini designers.  Perhaps as the old blind man lay on his death bed in Galpin Street, Modbury on the last Thursday of October 1863 he looked back of his army days, then thought of all family and wished their descendants, and us, well.

Ernest Frederick Rogers (1879)       - Ella Elizabeth (1883)
John Lear Rogers (1851)                  - Emily Curtis (1854)
John Rogers (1808)                          - Elizabeth Lear (1811)
John Rogers (1779)                          - Mary Bardons (1786)
John Rogers (1742)                          - Mary Lyndon (1744)
William Rogers (1720)                     - Joan Reynolds (1720)
Samuel Rogers (1687)                      - Margret Rud
Samuel Rogers (1654)                      - Mary Wilcock (1654)
John Rogers (1623)                          - Susan Cooker (1619)
Humphrey Rogers (1590)                 - Wilmot Soper (1588)


Sunday, 31 May 2015

Great Grandfather George



         
"All I knew about my father, George William Smith, was that at one time he was a prosperous greengrocer in East London.  However, I am afraid his downfall was drink and, more so, his associates." Fred Smith.       
George William Smith, led a short but eventful life. He was born on 10 August 1860 at 12 Portland (4) Street Mile End. His father was John Henry Smith a Master mariner in the merchant navy, ships in those days came right into the centre of London along the the river Thames. His mother was Elizabeth Bifield, who came from a family of plasterers.

The 1861 census shows that when George was only four months old he was living with Henry Roberts in the crowded number 37 Northey Street, Limehouse (1 on map). Here, thirteen people lived in three families. George's father was probably at sea in 1861 and his mother working elsewhere. Henry Roberts was a miller in a brewery and his son was a blacksmith. Henry and his wife Mary had two daughters living with them , Emma 17 and Rebecca 14. It was probably Mary and Rebecca who looked after baby George.














                                                                                                                                             

On Sunday the 1 Dec 1861 the family were reunited and took George to St Anne's Church  (2) for him to be baptised. The register says they lived at Bower Street, (3). This was next to the Albert Square.

When George was 18 he was found guilty of 'larceny and receiving' at Westminster courts and sentenced to 6 months imprisonment.

In March 1881 he was working as a baker and living with his father, still a mariner, his mother, younger sister Elenor and uncle Charles Smith a commercial traveller and probably a part time artist, at St Pauls Road, Mile End.

On Saturday 10 June 1882 George was living in 75 St Paul's Road and married Ella Amy Hawkings who lived around the corner at 130 Turners Road. They were married at St Pauls the local church in Bow, Just to the NE of the above map. George and Ella moved further East to Plaistow in West Ham and had four children, Ella, Beatrice, George and Fred (Smudge). In 1891 he was in Luton Road, West Ham and was a self employed greengrocer, probably selling from a cart, which he perhaps used a horse to pull around the streets, .

During this time George William took over a fish and chip shop. Using a candle to check how much grease there was in the air filter, he set fire to the shop and the family flat above. The family had to move out and the children lived with some neighbours.

At one time he took a horse which he wanted to sell, under the river Thames, through the Blackwall tunnel. The horse became so scared by the noise in the tunnel it looked crazy and he could not sell it.

In 1899 George was living at 37 Warmington Street, Plaistow.  He caught Typhoid fever and died. Typhoid was spread by poor sanitation. fifty years earlier epidemics of the disease were common throughout Britain. In 1899 there had been an increase in the disease, not an epidemic but 15 people had died in East London. He was 38 Years old.

Limehouse Barge-Builders by Charles Napier Hemy





Thursday, 14 May 2015

The Hawkins Family

Richard Hawkings
Over the years, I have found out a lot about our ancestors.  If there is one thing they all had in common, it is that they all belonged to the working classes.  I am proud of our assorted mass of labourers, servants, coopers, soldiers, sailors, quarrymen, bakers, lamplighters, seamstresses, tram drivers and tailors.

Until about 150 years ago very few of our ancestors would have had the chance to learn to read and write.  All that survives from them are a few "X the mark of..."

Rotherhithe free school

Some years ago I discovered that one ancestor had most probably learned to read and write, one of the few who had managed this before education was provided for all. This was Richard Hawkings who worked as a cooper, warehouseman and a clerk. He might well have learnt to write at the free school in Rotherhithe, around 1830, when he was about 10. The school was near his home.  Some ancestors might well have just learnt to write their signatures but Richard Hawkings has left us a clue that he could read, as well as write. He did this by the names he gave two of his children, one 'Garibaldi' and another 'Victor Hugo'. More about why he should choose to name his children after these two famous men, later. But first, what was the place like that Richard came from. On all his records he gives his birth place as Rotherhithe.

Rotherhithe
Rotherhithe is an area to the East of central London, on the south bank of the river Thames. In the days when ships came right into the heart of London, this stretch of water from Rotherhithe to London Bridge was known as the Pool of London and became one of the busiest ports in the world. In 1620 the Mayflower set sail from Rotherhithe, on its way, via Plymouth, to the New World. Every part of the riverbank in Rotherhithe, as well as the other side of the river at Wapping, had a wharf where goods could be unloaded. The riverside borough of Rotherhithe became a thriving home to mariners and all those workers that supported the many ships that docked there.
The Howland Great Wet Dock was built at Rotherhithe
By the end of the 17th Century the need to protect ships from the open tidal river, and the ability to unload more quickly, resulted in the start of 200 years of dock building in London with the Howland Great Wet Dock.


The new dock at Rotherhithe needed workers and men to work in support industries. Along with shipwrights, carpenters, caulkers and coopers came butchers, bakers, publicans and, of course, all their families.












By the end of the 18th Century the church of St Mary's Rotherhithe was a busy place, with around 500 baptisms and 100 marriages every year.

On the 23 April 1775 a John Hawkins, the son of Edward and Margaret was baptised. The curate recorded that John was 51 days old.





Southwark Fair was a 15 minute walk from Rotherhithe  it was drawn by Hogarth, one of the few artists who took an interest in the mass of 18th Century working people. Edward and Margarite Hawkins probably took their children to this fair?

John became a cooper, oak barrels being the 'shipping containers' of the day. John Hawkins and his wife Sarah, once referred to as 'Sally', had at least 7 children baptised at St Mary's and possibly two more unrecorded. Charles, John & Richard all followed in their fathers footsteps and became coopers.
  • Charles James 8 Feb 1807 
  • Eliza 21 Mar 1809
  • Henrietta 25 Dec 1811 (Buried 1 Jan 1815)
  • John 19 Sep 1813
  • Henrietta 14 May 1815
  • (Richard about 1818)
  • (George about 1820)
  • William 9 Sep 1821 (b. 3 Aug 1821) 
  • Thomas 9 Sep 1821 (b. 4 Aug 1821 buried 2 Feb 1823)
It is possible that Richard and George were part of this family but, for some reason were not registered by the church.  There are quite a few entries in the baptism register which state, "...parents left before registration," The curate presumably made a note of the Christian name during the ceremony and wrote down the details in the register later, but the parents had not waited. In an account of the the parish records of St Mary's around 1820s the following is written:
On March 2, 1822, appears for the first time the hand-
writing of the Rev. Dr Hardwicke, who became curate of
Rotherhithe, apparently replacing the Rev. T. A. Lincoln.
It is not until July 31, 1822, that Dr Hardwicke officiated
himself ; but he wrote up the entries from March 2 of burials
which Mr Lincoln had left unregistered. 
Rev.T. A. Lincoln took over the baptism registers at the beginning of 1819. Perhaps some entries were never made or maybe parents John and Sarah never bothered. In such a bustling port with a large mobile population it was unlikely the vicar would notice a couple of his flock had remained un-baptised.
There are a number of clues that Richard, our ancestor, belongs to this family but I could not be absolutely sure.
In 1841 the Census shows a Richard and John were both coopers living in the same house in Cross Street, Rotherhithe with a George Hawkins a shipwright. The ages given the 1841 census were to the nearest 5 years and relationships are not given, so it is possible the three are not all brothers. The Y in the right hand column indicates that they were all born in the county in which the census was registered, ie Surrey.

Ancestry
Richard's two wedding certificates give his father as John Hawkings, cooper. Charles' wedding Certificate says that his father was John Hawkings, a cooper. Charles wife Catherine Hawkings was a witness to Richard's second wedding and by 1851 Richard had moved to the area of Old Nichol in Bethnal Green, where Charles lived.

Edward Hawkins
married about 1770
Margaret.
Their children were,
John 1775,
Edward 1777,
Edward 1780,
Susanna 1783John Hawkins
married about 1805
Sarah Jones.
Their children were,
Charles 1807,
Eliza 1809,
Henrietta 1811 died aged 4,
John 1813,
Henrietta 1815
and possibly our relatives:
George about 1817,
Richard about 1819,
The last children in this family to be recorded in the parish register were the twins, Thomas and William 1821. Thomas died aged 2.

Richard Hawkings
married on the 22 Oct 1848Eliza Death.Their children were,
Thomas 1847,
Frederick 1853,
Garibaldi 1861,
Ella Amy 1863,(Smudge's mother)
Twins Bertie Otto and Victor Hugo 1869
Ella Hawkings
on the 6 Jun 1882 marriedGeorge Smith.They had
Ella Smith 1883, (Our Nan)Beatrice 1888,
George 1890,Frederick 1894. (Smudge)

Ella Smith
married on the 27 Jul 1902
Ernest Rogers
They had
Ernest 1803,
Horace 1805,
Ella 1807,
John 1809,
Emily
and Jessamine.







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